My gun however is anything but. That is my choice. A 3’x3′ target is nowhere near accurate enough for a sniper rifle. I have two questions. Glowingly touting hammer forged barrels is ignorant, its done simple to keep cost down, the best custom bbls like Krieger, are CUT RIFLED. I grew up in the \”don\’t shoot does\” era myself but, now, some areas of the country are so over-run with deer that there ARE no large deer, male or female, left because of food shortages. That’s awesome! Std should be an avg of 5, 5 shot groups and the author probably should know that. Considering that, this rifle should deliver more accuracy than the average person can use. Zeroed it at 50 feet then went out to 100 yards. I will not ever be that guy.”. Fortunately the Kansas wind was taking a break for the holiday and we only had a 5 MPH full value wind blowing from right to left. Is a 30 round mag “necessary”? If you wish to prove the accuracy of a firearm, the only way to do it is to shoot paper. Some people are just whining trolls. Welcome to the club! My first one was a 110 in 308 with a 20″ stainless sorta ‘fluted’ barrel. now everybody is copycatting this. You want big BUCKS? You won’t walk over it so easily. The attack on our Civil Rights continues! They all have either RPRs or custom REM 700 rigs that cost $K’s of dollars that I do not have. Have you ever shot ond of these ? The Remingtons in 270 is very picky, only doing well if I shoot Remington and Hornady, but I can cloverleaf all day with those. Hillary’s goons paid $1million to trolls, just to fuck with Bernie Sanders. What caused a young punk like me to find the Savage Beast? If they sent you the gun, knowing that you were going to review it for publication to mass audience, then you have already been bought. Tomorrow I go to the range to sight it in and see how it groups with Hornady ELD -Match factory cartridges. Paladin refers to a roving knight who does good, comports himself with dignity, and serves as a defender of the weak. I thought the barrel thinness would be an issue but I don’t notice a change with a hot barrel. I couldn’t agree more. JD// H.O.G, it says 3’X3′ the ‘ symbol means foot; like the length. He must have meant 50 yds. I realize your goal was to keep the total package under 1K. Hahahah great reply! We sighted it at 100 yds. Agreed on the grey on blue comments. But, if going the distance to put a silencer on the gun and realize the actual silencing was not really accomplished, I would opt for a more adept silencer, even if the make and model were more expensive. If someone were hit 3x in the chest with .223 at 3 t0 400 yards….What is their “after the Predator was dialed in. is more in line with reality. Where do you Douches come from? Looks like a clone of the Savage Accutrigger as well. Not sayin’…..just sayin. LOL. So I for one do believe the Author obtained his results and believe the rifle is capable of even better with some tailored hand-loads especially in 6.5 Creedmoor. If I ever had anything to prove I did it long ago. for my daughter to hunt Mule deer with,cost a whopping 300 bucks, slapped a 3-9x VX2 on it and it was quite accurate, The thing was too heavy for a 13 yo to carry around so she ended up with a lighter rifle and the Savage sat in the safe until 4 years ago when my cuz started bragging on how he dropped over $3k into customizing an old Ruger m77, and another 1k on a scope. After 45+ years of taking, preparing, and consuming wild game, I can personally attest that antlerless cervids far exceed their “horny” counterparts in tenderness and taste… especially during the rut when a buck’s (bull’s) testosterone is off the charts. Hitting a 36″ target at 1,000 yards?? By far the smoothest action I have ever cycled. ? Several posters have made comments about whether suppressors are “necessary”. You don’t hit shit. once the bolt passes back over the round sitting on the mag follower it depresses the cartridge and tie cartridge will NOT be high enough for the bolt to pick up. But I don’t understand why none of the of the American series of rifles have Iron sights as a entry level buyer $500.00 is not a cheap gun . A few days later I taught a long range hunting class and let eight different shooters put rounds through the Predator at 400 yards. We can all pick and choose a lucky group or stop at the third or fourth round. He could have told you not very good, but that was war, not a game. https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/4/21/1518537/-Clinton-SuperPac-Admits-to-Paying-Internet-Trolls I have not shot the 6.5 Creed yet, but I have a Weatherby Vanguard2 in 6.5 Creed that has been the most accurate out-of-the-box with factory (Hornady) ammo that I’ve yet to shoot, so I have hope for the Predator. Where did you get that SWFA for only $570? It could not miss the 3’x3’ plate at 1,000 yards. That was with a mid price Nikon scope. Continuing the Hunter lineage, Magpul introduces the Hunter American stock. Oh Boy !! The Brownells Ruger American BRN-1 Chassis system is designed to provide an enhanced rifle setup for owners of a number of popular rifle actions. No add ons or “Hand loads” and it would be great if you could test them both with the “Eliminator-3” Scope that I heard was Awesome, but I haven’t used one yet, I’m looking for a complete out of the box 1000Yd target, 800Yard hunting rifle that’s completely self contained for around $2000. Actually 1-MOA is 10.47″ at 1000 yds. It would be the gun we buy and use for years . With some practice, I hope to do the same someday. Relax and look out for your own self. In my era, late 60’s to the early 70’s you could have asked CHARLIE. are you sure I have no gun experience. I only hunt for trophy whitetail but I would never look down on someone that is hunting for Less than a Trophy!!!! When he sighted it in on his first box of Federal Power Shock, 100 grain soft tip, he was cloverleafing them at 100 yds. 100yard or 200 yard group sizes. You are the type that sits at home and fondles your precious weapon of choice if you even own one or more likely the worn and tattered copy of the add displaying the weapon you wished you had. Good job Ma’am! You probably don’t even hunt. After the long range hunting class, my confidence was high that the Predator would allow consistent thousand yard hits, but I wasn’t able to test it until a few months later. Haven’t shot it yet but as soon as I get the Ruger scope rail off and a 20 MOA Picatinny rail on so I can mount my Bushnell ERS 3-5 – 21 scope I’ll take it to the range. thread trolling.?! The “Silence” factor only occurs when shooting subsonic ammunition. I’ve never really shot this one, but I bet it would make a pretty good Creedmore, or maybe a PRC. Sounds like a good challenge. So, whether MOA stands for ‘minute of angle’, or ‘mil of angle’, it seems we need to decide of which we are speaking before using it to indicate accuracy. If I decide to install a suppressor, that cost will far exceed the total money I have in the rifle at this point. Mr. Shaw is 100% correct about the accuracy of the RAP in 6.5 CM. I like these rifles, not only accurate, but inexpensive. THAT IS A 3X3 HEAD SHOT NOT 36″ TARGET. So what?, those young deer are the tastiest, most tender ones! But doenst anyone find it strange that the author popped a can [suppressor] on the rifle for testing? And there is no stigma in shooting any deer that can walk, no matter how young. Practice makes perfect, Really then I guess this guy shooting it over a half mile iron sights is just silly ? You must have JavaScript enabled in your browser to utilize the functionality of this website. I believe Ruger has incorporate this design int o the American. I have one and it has exceeded my expectations in all but one category (rotary mag is the weak link for my POU). I’m in that situation quite often, sighting feral hogs along a field’s edge at distances from 160 – 1,500 yards. The barrel is also free floated using Ruger’s Power Bedding that positively locates the receiver, thus increasing accuracy. Great review. NO BS Mil-Dot is a misnomer, it is actually referred to a Mil. I have an inexpensive Sightron S1H 4-12x40A0 mounted in Warne Maxima rings on the 204 and a Sightron S1 2.5-10×44 mounted in Warne Maximas on the 6.5 Creed. That’s an awesome combo for basically $300. I rest my case. The Creedmoore is an intriguing caliber and I’ll have to get one, from the sounds of it. BTW, it WAS bought at WalMart. Now go get a Mani-Pedi and calm down. That is where the harsh flavor is greatest. Once I placed a suppressor on it the groups averaged 3-6 inches at a 100 yards with the same super sonic loads I was getting sub MOA with unsuppressed. AR-15 & AR-10. I get suspicious when the author at the beginning, slags other gun writers for doing what he is about to do. It\’s sad but a stark truth that prior \”conservation\” methods have created an entirely new problem. Here in Alaska you can shoot a Doe in certain areas, none of which I hunt but it is the job of the fish and game dept. I believe even the standard RAR is also has a hammer forged barrel as well, though I could not find it on their website in a 15 second search. That “killed baby deer” isn’t a baby. I am trying to outfit something similar and going to try and reproduce your results. I have a Ruger American Predator in 6.5 CM. bought a new Nikon 4x12x40 and checked to make sure the screws were tight. It is the ammunition and the consistency of the shooter applying all of the fundamentals that makes the biggest difference.